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	<title>Comments on: Remembering Berkeley&#8217;s vibrant Japanese-American community</title>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/02/15/remembering-berkeleys-vibrant-japanese-american-community/comment-page-1/#comment-1554</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes has some things right and others wrong.

He is right that: &quot;They weren’t all Japanese-Americans.&quot;  Prof. Chiura Obata and his wife Haruko, for example, was not U.S. citizens even though they had lived in the U.S. for close to forty years before the War.  Their children were U.S. citizens because they were born in the U.S.  And Prof. Obata and wife desired to be U.S. citizens.  But they were precluded from becoming U.S. citizens by both racist laws (like the California Alien Land Law) and poorly reasoned Supreme Court decisions (like Ozawa v. U.S.) that were not fixed until after WWII.  Still, the internment encompassed not just folks like Prof. Obata who were wrongly denied citizenship, but also folks like his children who clearly were citizens.  

Wes is wholly wrong when he states: &quot;They weren’t interned. They were evacuated. ... And they weren’t &#039;forced to abandon their houses and businesses&#039; — they went voluntarily, and they came back to re-start their businesses.&quot;  

Public Proclamation No. 4, issued pursuant to Executive Order 9066, forbid American citizens of Japanese ancestry from voluntarily evacuating, and they were instead required to report to &quot;concentration camps&quot; (FDR&#039;s own term) from which they were not allowed to leave and within which they were under armed guard.  Their houses and property were seized by the government.  They were only allowed what they could carry on their backs.  They were not able to &quot;go back&quot; to the houses and businesses they had prior to being interred.  Prof. Obata, for example, ended having to live in a fellow Professor&#039;s attic for years after the war.  

I hate to see folks like Wes attempt to defend the internment by distorting the true history.  The reality is that the internment was a great social injustice, one that stemmed from clearly racist attitudes on the West Coast.  The right attitude is to make sure that such an injustice is not repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes has some things right and others wrong.</p>
<p>He is right that: &#8220;They weren’t all Japanese-Americans.&#8221;  Prof. Chiura Obata and his wife Haruko, for example, was not U.S. citizens even though they had lived in the U.S. for close to forty years before the War.  Their children were U.S. citizens because they were born in the U.S.  And Prof. Obata and wife desired to be U.S. citizens.  But they were precluded from becoming U.S. citizens by both racist laws (like the California Alien Land Law) and poorly reasoned Supreme Court decisions (like Ozawa v. U.S.) that were not fixed until after WWII.  Still, the internment encompassed not just folks like Prof. Obata who were wrongly denied citizenship, but also folks like his children who clearly were citizens.  </p>
<p>Wes is wholly wrong when he states: &#8220;They weren’t interned. They were evacuated. &#8230; And they weren’t &#8216;forced to abandon their houses and businesses&#8217; — they went voluntarily, and they came back to re-start their businesses.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Public Proclamation No. 4, issued pursuant to Executive Order 9066, forbid American citizens of Japanese ancestry from voluntarily evacuating, and they were instead required to report to &#8220;concentration camps&#8221; (FDR&#8217;s own term) from which they were not allowed to leave and within which they were under armed guard.  Their houses and property were seized by the government.  They were only allowed what they could carry on their backs.  They were not able to &#8220;go back&#8221; to the houses and businesses they had prior to being interred.  Prof. Obata, for example, ended having to live in a fellow Professor&#8217;s attic for years after the war.  </p>
<p>I hate to see folks like Wes attempt to defend the internment by distorting the true history.  The reality is that the internment was a great social injustice, one that stemmed from clearly racist attitudes on the West Coast.  The right attitude is to make sure that such an injustice is not repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only a gardening story to add. Mr. Toichi Domoto was an esteemed hybridizer of Japanese maples and tree peonies before WWII. He was forced to leave his recent tree peony crosses and his nursery in Fremont, CA for an internment camp with his family. A neighbor took care of his young plants until he returned.  The following spring of 1946 his new tree peony varieties bloomed for the first time. His collection is now growing at Filoli and his cultivars generally bloom there in early April. His life&#039;s work, which endures in gardens across the Northern Hemisphere, would have been lost due to Executive Order 9066 if not for the kindness of his neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only a gardening story to add. Mr. Toichi Domoto was an esteemed hybridizer of Japanese maples and tree peonies before WWII. He was forced to leave his recent tree peony crosses and his nursery in Fremont, CA for an internment camp with his family. A neighbor took care of his young plants until he returned.  The following spring of 1946 his new tree peony varieties bloomed for the first time. His collection is now growing at Filoli and his cultivars generally bloom there in early April. His life&#8217;s work, which endures in gardens across the Northern Hemisphere, would have been lost due to Executive Order 9066 if not for the kindness of his neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Dinkelspiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances Dinkelspiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Russia and Germany broke their alliance before the US got into the war. I misspoke,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Russia and Germany broke their alliance before the US got into the war. I misspoke,</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Dinkelspiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances Dinkelspiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if they were &quot;enemy combatants,&quot; why didn&#039;t the U.S. government send German-Americans, or first generation Germans, to camps in remote parts of the United States? Or Russians, for that matter, when Germany and the Soviet Union were allied? Racism certainly played a role here.

There were first generation Japanese sent to camps, and their children, born in the U.S. who were U.S. citizens.

I disagree that these people were evacuated. They were sent to live in jail-like compounds with guards, barracks, and barbed wire. 

It is you, I suggest, who needs to do some more investigating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if they were &#8220;enemy combatants,&#8221; why didn&#8217;t the U.S. government send German-Americans, or first generation Germans, to camps in remote parts of the United States? Or Russians, for that matter, when Germany and the Soviet Union were allied? Racism certainly played a role here.</p>
<p>There were first generation Japanese sent to camps, and their children, born in the U.S. who were U.S. citizens.</p>
<p>I disagree that these people were evacuated. They were sent to live in jail-like compounds with guards, barracks, and barbed wire. </p>
<p>It is you, I suggest, who needs to do some more investigating.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got a few things wrong here:

They weren&#039;t all Japanese-Americans. There were first-generation Japanese, and they were enemy aliens due to their country attacking ours. If they were Americans, than so is every single person living in the US now regardless of citizenship.

They weren&#039;t interned. They were evacuated.

And they weren&#039;t &quot;forced to abandon their houses and businesses&quot; -- they went voluntarily, and they came back to re-start their businesses. How many of them could and could not? You need that data there to be honest.

If you think I am wrong, do some homework. A good place to start is here:
http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Contents.html

You need to really think hard about what should have been done with residents in the US who suddenly became enemy aliens. And picture yourself living in Japan at the outbreak of WWII. What would have happened to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got a few things wrong here:</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t all Japanese-Americans. There were first-generation Japanese, and they were enemy aliens due to their country attacking ours. If they were Americans, than so is every single person living in the US now regardless of citizenship.</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t interned. They were evacuated.</p>
<p>And they weren&#8217;t &#8220;forced to abandon their houses and businesses&#8221; &#8212; they went voluntarily, and they came back to re-start their businesses. How many of them could and could not? You need that data there to be honest.</p>
<p>If you think I am wrong, do some homework. A good place to start is here:<br />
<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Contents.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Contents.html</a></p>
<p>You need to really think hard about what should have been done with residents in the US who suddenly became enemy aliens. And picture yourself living in Japan at the outbreak of WWII. What would have happened to you?</p>
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