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	<title>Comments on: Council approaches BRT &#8220;study&#8221; decision</title>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog.net &#187; Berkeley Rejects BRT, and What It Means for ‘Complete Streets’</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-8966</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsblog.net &#187; Berkeley Rejects BRT, and What It Means for ‘Complete Streets’</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Berkeley&#039;s now-dead BRT/complete streets plan. Image: Berkeleyside.In voting against AC Transit’s BRT project, Berkeley has played up its stereotype as a community [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Comment: The BRTea Party&#8217;s Council Meeting &#8211; Berkeleyside</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment: The BRTea Party&#8217;s Council Meeting &#8211; Berkeleyside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alan Tobey has been following the plans for Bus Rapid Transit in Berkeley closely. Below he reports on the latest developments (read his previous post on the subject here): [...]</description>
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		<title>By: City votes yes on Center Street, delays BRT decision &#8211; Berkeleyside</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>City votes yes on Center Street, delays BRT decision &#8211; Berkeleyside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other big-ticket item on the long agenda &#8212; discussion of the locally preferred alternative on Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) &#8212; was deferred to April 20 because of the late [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On the council agenda: budget shortfall and BRT &#8211; Berkeleyside</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2850</link>
		<dc:creator>On the council agenda: budget shortfall and BRT &#8211; Berkeleyside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The regular council meeting will convene at 7 p.m. Tonight&#8217;s lengthy agenda consists of 43 items. Interest is likely to center on the presentation and discussion of the locally preferred alternative on bus rapid transit (BRT &#8212; large PDF alert, a mere 387 pages). Alan Tobey discussed the project the other week on Berkeleyside. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The regular council meeting will convene at 7 p.m. Tonight&#8217;s lengthy agenda consists of 43 items. Interest is likely to center on the presentation and discussion of the locally preferred alternative on bus rapid transit (BRT &#8212; large PDF alert, a mere 387 pages). Alan Tobey discussed the project the other week on Berkeleyside. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2684</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna: no sweat - I didn&#039;t take you as &quot;harsh&quot; at all.  Sorry if I seemed harsh in reply.   I was just nitpicking and riding some favorite hobby horses (e.g., cyclists shouldn&#039;t be jerks in ways like riding the wrong ways;  motorists shouldn&#039;t be jerks like when some of them deliberately menace bikes with a deadly weapon;  delivery people and others shouldn&#039;t be jerks who double park on narrow busy streets;  and cyclists should learn to take lanes when appropriate.   I&#039;ve heard that there is even an &quot;urban biking&quot; class in that other City across the bay that teaches &quot;lane taking&quot; as a safety measure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna: no sweat &#8211; I didn&#8217;t take you as &#8220;harsh&#8221; at all.  Sorry if I seemed harsh in reply.   I was just nitpicking and riding some favorite hobby horses (e.g., cyclists shouldn&#8217;t be jerks in ways like riding the wrong ways;  motorists shouldn&#8217;t be jerks like when some of them deliberately menace bikes with a deadly weapon;  delivery people and others shouldn&#8217;t be jerks who double park on narrow busy streets;  and cyclists should learn to take lanes when appropriate.   I&#8217;ve heard that there is even an &#8220;urban biking&#8221; class in that other City across the bay that teaches &#8220;lane taking&#8221; as a safety measure.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Field</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding BRT:  I apologize for several mistakes I made in my first letter.  The first line which says &quot; Southbound &quot;  should read &quot;northbound&quot;.   The second mistake at the end of the letter on alternate routes - Dana is a one-way street southbound so that route is impossible.  The alternate route should be Telegraph Ave. to Dwight Way -turn right  - go to Bowditch St - turn left- go to Bancroft Ave- turn left- follow Bowditch Ave to bus stops on Bowditch  Ave. Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding BRT:  I apologize for several mistakes I made in my first letter.  The first line which says &#8221; Southbound &#8221;  should read &#8220;northbound&#8221;.   The second mistake at the end of the letter on alternate routes &#8211; Dana is a one-way street southbound so that route is impossible.  The alternate route should be Telegraph Ave. to Dwight Way -turn right  &#8211; go to Bowditch St &#8211; turn left- go to Bancroft Ave- turn left- follow Bowditch Ave to bus stops on Bowditch  Ave. Anna</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Field</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas- I didn&#039;t mean to sound harsh concerning bicycles on Telegraph.  There is no bike lane and is it somewhat unsafe to ride there.  The road is too narrow for bike lanes.   I definitely would not wish to ban cyclists from Telegraph Ave. I am more concerned for cyclists &#039; safety.  Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas- I didn&#8217;t mean to sound harsh concerning bicycles on Telegraph.  There is no bike lane and is it somewhat unsafe to ride there.  The road is too narrow for bike lanes.   I definitely would not wish to ban cyclists from Telegraph Ave. I am more concerned for cyclists &#8216; safety.  Anna</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2679</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, this is a bit off topic about your main thesis about BRT but I want to respond to you when you  write: &quot;Bicycles should not be allowed in traffic on Telegraph Ave. It is highly dangerous to ride a bicycle on Telegraph Ave. During peak hours a bicyclist must somehow ride in between the two lanes going one-way.&quot;

You are talking about a small segment of Telegraph, of course.  And, about that segment, you are only partly correct.

You are correct that that part of Telegraph can be a pretty tricky ride.   I would not recommend it to a rider who lacked confidence and alertness.

You are completely incorrect that &quot;a bicyclist must somehow ride in between the two lanes going one way&quot;.

On the contrary, in that section of Telegraph, the wise cyclist simply (and legally) *takes a lane*.   That is, one rides down the center of a lane, clearly blocking cars from passing them in that lane.   This is proper, legal, and probably the safest way to handle that part of the road.

In my experience of that segment of road, that&#039;s more or less the only safe-ish way to handle it.   The main two dangers that then arise are from the large amount of double-parking that occurs on Telegraph, and the occasional driver who decides to respond to this circumstance by deliberately menacing you with their car.   Banning cyclists from that part of Telegraph would be a peculiar cure for those illegal activities by non-cyclists.

(Cyclists riding the wrong way there, as you mention some do, get no sympathy from me.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, this is a bit off topic about your main thesis about BRT but I want to respond to you when you  write: &#8220;Bicycles should not be allowed in traffic on Telegraph Ave. It is highly dangerous to ride a bicycle on Telegraph Ave. During peak hours a bicyclist must somehow ride in between the two lanes going one-way.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are talking about a small segment of Telegraph, of course.  And, about that segment, you are only partly correct.</p>
<p>You are correct that that part of Telegraph can be a pretty tricky ride.   I would not recommend it to a rider who lacked confidence and alertness.</p>
<p>You are completely incorrect that &#8220;a bicyclist must somehow ride in between the two lanes going one way&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the contrary, in that section of Telegraph, the wise cyclist simply (and legally) *takes a lane*.   That is, one rides down the center of a lane, clearly blocking cars from passing them in that lane.   This is proper, legal, and probably the safest way to handle that part of the road.</p>
<p>In my experience of that segment of road, that&#8217;s more or less the only safe-ish way to handle it.   The main two dangers that then arise are from the large amount of double-parking that occurs on Telegraph, and the occasional driver who decides to respond to this circumstance by deliberately menacing you with their car.   Banning cyclists from that part of Telegraph would be a peculiar cure for those illegal activities by non-cyclists.</p>
<p>(Cyclists riding the wrong way there, as you mention some do, get no sympathy from me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Field</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/03/11/council-approaches-brt-study-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dwight Way to Bancroft:  Telegraph Ave. is a two-lane one-way street, northbound, ending at Bancroft, which is also a two-lane one-way street. This is a crucial point and an important reason not to have any buses at all on Telegraph Ave.  

Due to heavy pedestrian usage of the Bancroft Telegraph Ave. pedestrian walkway all day by students (walkway from Sather Gate in front of campus to the Telegraph Ave. entrance) this area is the most consistently congested traffic and pedestrian area of Telegraph Ave. The BRT should not add to the congestion due to the fact that a left turn here is dangerous to pedestrian and auto traffic since buses are long and turning is difficult in this cramped area.  

The BRT is a good idea; but, only if BRT doesn&#039;t use Telegraph Ave.  There are severe problems for all merchants, as well as the 125 street vendors if the BRT&#039;s current plan to change Telegraph Ave. into  two-way street with one lane exclusively for buses and loading and and the other lane for automobile traffic.  

Here are more problems to consider: Garbage pickup is at the most congested time of day early evening.  Are the buses going to have to wait for the garbage truck, UPS and FedEx trucks and various food and other service trucks along the avenue; not to mention, stores such as Rasputin Records, Amoeba Record,  Mars Mercantile -- depend on customers who unload directly in front of their stores.  These shops will lose business and this loss will impact Telegraph Avenue overall.  Also the  street vendors need to load and unload all along the 4 block Telegraph Ave corridor twice a day. I doubt that anyone can load or unload a vehicle in 3 minutes -- in time to avoid blocking bus traffic in the bus and loading lane.  

Also bicyclists should be aware that Telegraph Ave is too narrow to put a bike lane in.  Consider Car exhaust and bus exhaust alone.  How could bicyclists ride directly next to a bus lane or a very slow moving single lane for autos?  The pollution would be terrible because a single lane of auto traffic would slow traffic to a standstill at every stoplight. Fumes would be affecting bicyclists, pedestrians, street vendors and stores.  Will the buses really be able to keep their schedule under these conditions; and, one other very important reason not to have BRT on Telegraph Ave is the fact that the buses, every 5 minutes, will throw up a tremendous amount of dirt into the air.  This is an absolute fact that would have significant impact on anyone on the sidewalks, including cafe shops open to the sidewalks.  BRT on Telegraph is already a problem for pedestrians,bicyclists, service trucks merchants and street vendors.  

Bicycles should not be allowed in traffic on Telegraph Ave.  It is highly dangerous to ride a bicycle on Telegraph Ave.  During peak hours a bicyclist must somehow  ride in between the two lanes going one-way.  Creating a bike lane would also add to the already existing problem of no more space and would force Telegraph Ave  to create a second bike lane going the opposite direction if Telegraph Ave. was a two-way Street.   Bicyclists should walk their bikes on the sidewalk on  Telegraph Ave and use the existing bike lane on  Channing Way; cross Telegraph Ave and turn left at the next corner and continue to Bancroft if the University is their destination; or if they must be on Telegraph Ave; walk their bikes on the sidewalk. 

Consider also that Telegraph Ave is a one way street and bicyclists can only move in the same direction as autos.  Many bicyclists ride the wrong way on Telegraph, which is illegal and dangerous to themselves  and a hazard to vehicles.   

Consider, also, the environmental impact a change would have on the historically significant ambiance of Telegraph Ave.   The history of street vending and small businesses in a unique setting would be, forever, lost.  We would not be able to restore this unique atmosphere after the damage is done.   If the City of Berkeley would make permits to operate businesses easier to get there would be more business on Telegraph Ave.  

If we want Telegraph to be a better place we should concentrate  on keeping Telegraph Ave a person- friendly place to shop and a clean safe environment for all who work and shop there.  Consider, also Emergency Vehicles and Police Vehicles.  How are they going to park and where are they going to park if the BRT plan is instigated?   Can an emergency vehicle squeeze into a single lane of creeping autos  and what about  the stoplight?  How is  a police or other emergency vehicle (ambulance) going to park; either in the bus lane or in the auto lane  and, if it is a two-way, street, then, imagine the confusion in case of emergency.  Will the buses come to a standstill while this is happening and miss their deadlines; thus obstructing other buses from meeting their deadlines?   

Instead of going Southbound between Haste and Telegraph an alternate route should be implemented for the Bay Area Rapid Transit system. They cannot widen Telegraph Ave. in order to  actuate their plan without narrowing the sidewalks to the point of congestion and danger to pedestrians and to the detriment of shops .  I propose a left turn on Haste Ave. and a right turn  on Dana and then left on Bancroft.  Bus stops could be created on Haste St. at that corner and on the Dana St. corner. There is already a bus stop on Bancroft . An alternate route should be proposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwight Way to Bancroft:  Telegraph Ave. is a two-lane one-way street, northbound, ending at Bancroft, which is also a two-lane one-way street. This is a crucial point and an important reason not to have any buses at all on Telegraph Ave.  </p>
<p>Due to heavy pedestrian usage of the Bancroft Telegraph Ave. pedestrian walkway all day by students (walkway from Sather Gate in front of campus to the Telegraph Ave. entrance) this area is the most consistently congested traffic and pedestrian area of Telegraph Ave. The BRT should not add to the congestion due to the fact that a left turn here is dangerous to pedestrian and auto traffic since buses are long and turning is difficult in this cramped area.  </p>
<p>The BRT is a good idea; but, only if BRT doesn&#8217;t use Telegraph Ave.  There are severe problems for all merchants, as well as the 125 street vendors if the BRT&#8217;s current plan to change Telegraph Ave. into  two-way street with one lane exclusively for buses and loading and and the other lane for automobile traffic.  </p>
<p>Here are more problems to consider: Garbage pickup is at the most congested time of day early evening.  Are the buses going to have to wait for the garbage truck, UPS and FedEx trucks and various food and other service trucks along the avenue; not to mention, stores such as Rasputin Records, Amoeba Record,  Mars Mercantile &#8212; depend on customers who unload directly in front of their stores.  These shops will lose business and this loss will impact Telegraph Avenue overall.  Also the  street vendors need to load and unload all along the 4 block Telegraph Ave corridor twice a day. I doubt that anyone can load or unload a vehicle in 3 minutes &#8212; in time to avoid blocking bus traffic in the bus and loading lane.  </p>
<p>Also bicyclists should be aware that Telegraph Ave is too narrow to put a bike lane in.  Consider Car exhaust and bus exhaust alone.  How could bicyclists ride directly next to a bus lane or a very slow moving single lane for autos?  The pollution would be terrible because a single lane of auto traffic would slow traffic to a standstill at every stoplight. Fumes would be affecting bicyclists, pedestrians, street vendors and stores.  Will the buses really be able to keep their schedule under these conditions; and, one other very important reason not to have BRT on Telegraph Ave is the fact that the buses, every 5 minutes, will throw up a tremendous amount of dirt into the air.  This is an absolute fact that would have significant impact on anyone on the sidewalks, including cafe shops open to the sidewalks.  BRT on Telegraph is already a problem for pedestrians,bicyclists, service trucks merchants and street vendors.  </p>
<p>Bicycles should not be allowed in traffic on Telegraph Ave.  It is highly dangerous to ride a bicycle on Telegraph Ave.  During peak hours a bicyclist must somehow  ride in between the two lanes going one-way.  Creating a bike lane would also add to the already existing problem of no more space and would force Telegraph Ave  to create a second bike lane going the opposite direction if Telegraph Ave. was a two-way Street.   Bicyclists should walk their bikes on the sidewalk on  Telegraph Ave and use the existing bike lane on  Channing Way; cross Telegraph Ave and turn left at the next corner and continue to Bancroft if the University is their destination; or if they must be on Telegraph Ave; walk their bikes on the sidewalk. </p>
<p>Consider also that Telegraph Ave is a one way street and bicyclists can only move in the same direction as autos.  Many bicyclists ride the wrong way on Telegraph, which is illegal and dangerous to themselves  and a hazard to vehicles.   </p>
<p>Consider, also, the environmental impact a change would have on the historically significant ambiance of Telegraph Ave.   The history of street vending and small businesses in a unique setting would be, forever, lost.  We would not be able to restore this unique atmosphere after the damage is done.   If the City of Berkeley would make permits to operate businesses easier to get there would be more business on Telegraph Ave.  </p>
<p>If we want Telegraph to be a better place we should concentrate  on keeping Telegraph Ave a person- friendly place to shop and a clean safe environment for all who work and shop there.  Consider, also Emergency Vehicles and Police Vehicles.  How are they going to park and where are they going to park if the BRT plan is instigated?   Can an emergency vehicle squeeze into a single lane of creeping autos  and what about  the stoplight?  How is  a police or other emergency vehicle (ambulance) going to park; either in the bus lane or in the auto lane  and, if it is a two-way, street, then, imagine the confusion in case of emergency.  Will the buses come to a standstill while this is happening and miss their deadlines; thus obstructing other buses from meeting their deadlines?   </p>
<p>Instead of going Southbound between Haste and Telegraph an alternate route should be implemented for the Bay Area Rapid Transit system. They cannot widen Telegraph Ave. in order to  actuate their plan without narrowing the sidewalks to the point of congestion and danger to pedestrians and to the detriment of shops .  I propose a left turn on Haste Ave. and a right turn  on Dana and then left on Bancroft.  Bus stops could be created on Haste St. at that corner and on the Dana St. corner. There is already a bus stop on Bancroft . An alternate route should be proposed.</p>
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