Sadness surrounds closing of Berkeley Patients Group

Security guards check the credentials of a patient on the last day of operations of Berkeley Patients Group. Photo: Frances Dinkelspiel

The mood was somber Monday at Berkeley Patients Group as the 12-and-a-half-year old cannabis dispensary got ready to shut its doors.

Like every day, patients streamed in at a steady rate, handing over a doctor’s prescription and driver’s license to get inside. But many of them were also greeted with a hug and expression of gratitude.

Joshua, who works security for BPG, gives Mary Elizabeth Davis, a patient, a goodbye hug. Photo: Frances Dinkelspiel

“I want to thank you ladies for coming on our last day,” Joshua, a supervisor in the safety department who was working the security detail at the front door said to two patients. He asked that his last name not be used. “You will always be in our hearts and minds.”

Berkeley Patients Group is closing because the federal government informed its landlord, David Mayeri, in November that it might seize his assets if cannabis operations were not stopped. The letter from U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag was part of a broad-based crackdown on cannabis operations around California, a push that has resulted in the closure of dozens of medical marijuana dispensaries. Berkeley Patients Group, which has 13,000 members, is the largest and oldest dispensary to be affected, however.

Berkeley Patients Group agreed in a legal settlement with Mayeri to stop all sales of cannabis by May 1. The collective will clean up and vacate the premises by June 1, according to Brad Senesac, a spokesman for the group.

Berkeley Patients Group is not going out of the medical cannabis business, however. It is planning to launch a delivery service while it looks for a new location.

A huge banner announcing the service hung Monday in the back of the reception area, right behind the desk where all patients check in. “BPG Express. Coming Soon!” read the sign. “Sign up now to be among the first to receive our Exclusive Delivery Deals and Specials.” The delivery service will launch in late May, said Senesac.

Patients coming to BPG on its last day could see a banner advertising the new delivery service that will start in late May. Photo: Frances Dinkelspiel

The collective is still looking for a new location and has a number of promising prospects, said Senesac, who acknowledged it has not been easy to find a new space.

“We’re looking to move a 13-year old business,” he said. “We’ve been looking to move for five years. For us to expedite the move within the parameters set by the federal government, the state and local laws, we want to make sure we have the right location.”

BPG’s current 69 employees will be paid through the end of May,” said Senesac. If no new location has been found by then, BPG plans to bring in employment counselors to help the workers brush up their resumes and strategize on finding new jobs.

“If it’s going to be impossible to move, we’ll have an additional 69 unemployed folks in the city of Berkeley,” said Senesac.

Many employees and patients expressed sadness Monday that BPG was closing. They bemoaned the fact that it will be more difficult to get good quality medical cannabis in a safe and clean setting.

“This is tragic,” said Joshua, who has worked at BPG for three and a half years. “It’s really heartbreaking. The thing that hurts most is the ‘Helping Hands’ patients who can’t afford to pay for medicine. We give it to them for free. A lot of them have serious illnesses and it is really heart-wrenching to think they might not get their medicine.”

Mary Elizabeth Davis, a nurse who uses medical cannabis to alleviate the pain from severe osteoarthritis in her knees, said she will miss the feeling of camaraderie at BPG.

“This is my family,” said Davis, who has been a nurse for 42 years. “There are probably 100 people inside there,” she said, pointing to the lounge of BPG. “We said it feels like Thanksgiving. We are all so thankful. We are going to miss the whole community.”

Another patient asked Joshua what he should do to try and get the federal government to back off its pursuit of cannabis dispensaries.

“What do we need to do?” asked the man, who did not give his name. “Who do we write to? Who do we call? Who do we email? We’ve got to do something. This is my second home.”

The closure of BPG is the latest blow to an organization that just three years ago was doing so well it planned to export its brand across the country. Executives at BPG helped pass Berkeley’s Measure JJ in 2008, an ordinance that streamlined and clarified the city’s medical cannabis regulations. As states around the country started to adopt looser medical cannabis laws, BPG positioned itself as a consultant. In 2009 it sent a top executive, Rebecca DeKeuster, to Maine to lay the groundwork for a series of new dispensaries.

But soon BPG and DeKeuster were in court, with BPG alleging that DeKeuster had breached her contract and stolen trade secrets. BPG sued to recover $632,195 it lent her to open new locations.

Also in 2011, the state Board of Equalization slapped BPG with a bill of $6.4 million for back taxes and fines. BPG has worked out a payment plan with the state, but it is unclear how those payments will continue if BPG no longer has income.

In November 2011, the co-founder and former president of BPG, Debby Goldsberry, filed a wrongful termination suit against the collective, alleging that its current leaders had inappropriately taken money from BPG to invest in the Maine endeavor, among other serious allegations. The lawsuit has since been settled, according to California Watch, which first reported the suit.

Local officials in Berkeley have been supportive of BPG, in part because it generates about $100,000 a year in taxes and donates as much as $200,000 annually to local charities. Critics of cannabis dispensaries, however, often contend that they are set up just to generate huge profits for their founders and that many of the patients are not sick but just use doctor’s prescriptions to get easy access to pot.

While BPG generates millions of dollars in sales each year, (California Watch reports that it brings in $19 million annually) most of that money goes to pay employees and is not used to line the pockets of the owners, Senesac said Monday.

While BPG is a corporation, it is a not-for-profit like Kaiser, he said. A salary survey conducted by a consultant hired by BPG determined that the executive salaries were in the mid-range of other executive salaries in the medical field in Alameda County, he said. (While Senesac did not reveal the results of that survey, legal documents filed against DeKeuster revealed she was paid $125,000 a year.) Senesac, who moved from Atlanta to Berkeley three years ago to work for BPG, added that he lives in an apartment, does not own a car, and rides his bike to work.

With all the uncertainty, all that BPG staff could do on Monday was convey to the dispensary’s clientele that things might turn around.

“We’re trying to let them know that although we are powerless here we still love them,” said Joshua. “I try to remind them that although we are closing, this is not the end. Hopefully we will find a new location and be up and running and serving medicine.”

Related:
Berkeley Patient Group says it is moving, not closing [03.16.12]
Berkeley’s largest cannabis dispensary to close May 1 [03.15.12]
Federal letter may make Berkeley Patients Group relocate [03.14.12]
Berkeley orders two cannabis collectives to shut down [02.22.12]
Councilmember: Look at unauthorized cannabis collectives [12.06.11]
Rapid growth of cannabis collective raises concerns [9.20.11]
Concerns raised about new medical cannabis collective [10.27.11]
Commission ponders growth of unlicensed pot clubs [11.4.11]

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  • bgal4

    While BPG is a corporation, it is a not-for-profit like Kaiser, he said.
    A salary survey conducted by a consultant hired by BPG determined that
    the executive salaries were in the mid-range of other executive salaries
    in the medical field in Alameda County, he said.

    Now this is really too much, medical field????

  • The Sharkey

    If the results from the salary survey are “normal” why won’t BPG release the report?

    If I was trying to garner community support I don’t know if I’d want to compare myself to Kaiser. Personally I have had pretty good experiences with them but there’s a lot of hate for Kaiser out there.

  • Doc

    Like Chez Panisse and the Rep., BPG is one of the great institutions that make Berkeley a special place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LiberalsToRecallJerryBrown drBCayenneBird

     
    There is a statewide initiative underway, signature gatherers are needed.  Those who want to change the laws have until June 2, 2012 to qualify it for the ballot.  About 300 more signature gatherers are needed right now. Out of state people can help by leaving messages like this one in California news forums. Calif Cannabis Hemp Health Initiative 2012.  Can’t gather signatures?  Make a donation right now.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/cchhi2012/

  • The Sharkey

    I can’t see this without logging into Facebook, and I neither have nor want to have a Facebook account.
    Is there an alternate website for this group? Can you summarize their goals?

    If this is an attempt to fully legalize, tax, and regulate marijuana for medicinal/recreational use I’d love to sign the initiative.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LiberalsToRecallJerryBrown drBCayenneBird

     Everyone wants to sign, but there are not enough signature gatherers out there, please plug into the campaign on FB, help in some real way such as donating money to pay for shipping petitions statewide, there is one month left.
    http://www.cchhi2012.org/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587184814 Tommy Salami

    Yes. Medical cannabis, Medical Field. What’s the issue?

  • m577a2

     This is how marijuana was made illegal:
    “…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”.
    “Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”.
    “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”.
    “Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”.
    “You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”.
    “Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”.

    This is how it is kept illegal (and all 3 requirements MUST be met):
    (A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
    (B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    (C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.”

    There is no truth behind prohibition, only lies which the government
    uses to wage war on us. That is called tyranny. No taxation without
    representation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587184814 Tommy Salami

     Yes. Medical cannabis, Medical Field. What’s the issue?

  • Bruce Love

     Hear, hear!

  • Guest

    It isn’t medicine. “Medical field” refers to people working in traditional medicine, i.e., physicians, nurses, etc. Cannabis inhabits a strange space of its own. It may have legitimate medical uses, but its legal status has severely inhibited the sort of objective investigations that physicians use to establish safety and efficacy. California law allows it to be sold to people who have been judged by a physician to have a disorder that can be ameliorated by cannabis. But it is not dispensed by pharmacies, and no measured therapeutic dose is either prescribed or dispensed: this makes it different from any drug that would be prescribed by a physician and dispensed by a pharmacist (or sold over the counter). Anyway the complaints for which it can be “prescribed” are often vague and there is a general understanding that it can be used for whatever ails you, up to and including life in general. To put it bluntly, the great bulk of the “medical cannabis” in California is used for recreational purposes, and it has little or nothing to do with medicine as most of us understand it. 

    As for me, I regard the charade of “medical cannabis” as useful: it is another illustration of the ridiculous status of this relatively benign recreational substance, kept by many households only for “medicinal” purposes. It may have some modest place in the medical pharmacopeia, but we don’t quite know just where because the laws make it so difficult to investigate. 

  • bgal4

    So the manager at the  local pharmacies takes down an executive salaries? Hardly.
     Walgreens is just another corp business profiting from distributing medications.

    please don’t even try that medical crap with me, I was a legit caregiver (non-user) of an ACTUALLY serious ill family member for several years. On a weekly basis I witnessed the prioritizing of sales for recreational use at the dispensary over the proper care and respect for the very people Prop 215 was meant to assist. 

    I took responsibility  to confront these failures by speaking at  the MM commission.  One of the former BPG  board members  met with us to develop specific  reforms for supplying extremely low income disabled folks. Those reforms were never implemented.

    Before somebody tries to explain to me that I can’t tell from the appearances who deserves the right to buy pot,  save it, I worked in the medical field for over 25 years, and my brother’s illness fooled plenty of inattentive people, or maybe they were just stoned.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not seeing the big picture. The “abuse” and “recreation” you’re referring to puts doctors at fault, not the dispenser. Now these profits cannot be taxed, and the black market will rise. How do you feel about drug cartels in northern California? It’s about to happen whether we want it to or not, because regardless of whether or not some individuals abuse it, there are those who actually need it, and many of BPG’s clientele will likely flock to dealers. And being a former user myself, (my particular ailments I prefer to keep secret as these are very personal)…I do not pretend that I ever really truly needed it like I might need insulin for my diabetes…but I’ve seen patients who do, and it is VERY disheartening and unfortunate that these individuals are suffering as a result of a political agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587184814 Tommy Salami

    No, because they are pharmacy managers. I imagine Walgreen’s executives take home executive salaries. Then again, nobody at Walgreen’s has to worry that 40 cops in riot gear are going to come streaming in and put a boot on their neck, but I digress.

    Just like at Walgreen’s, my job is to safely advise people about the use of medical cannabis, not judge their eligibility. Nobody at Walgreen’s judges whether or not you might be abusing that Vicodin you’re picking up. It’s not their job.

    A few days ago, I helped a man and his wife at my job. At one point she started crying because she has cancer and she is scared. That made him start crying, which in turn got me choked up. I see that every day. Real people with real illnesses. 

    I can’t speak with knowledge on your meeting but will regard that with the credence an anonymous post deserves. My condolences in regard to the illness in your family. Care-taking is extremely stressful for family members, but often the only financially feasible option. I’m sorry you were put in that position.

    Berkeley Patients Group has had a compassionate care program that supplies low income patients with free medication for the almost the entirety of it’s existence.

  • John Holland

    executive salaries were in the mid-range of other executive salaries in the medical field in Alameda County

    “bgal4″ wrote:

    So the manager at the  local pharmacies takes down an executive salaries?

    Actually, yes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=587184814 Tommy Salami

     Actually, laboratories have been breaking it down for us here and abroad. You can go to sites like Stickyguide and check off illnesses or symptoms and get recommendations based on your individual needs.

    And your partly right. Cannabis is actually more like over the counter medicines. It requires user titration. Aspirin gives you a suggested dosage range of something like 2-4 pills every 4-6 hours not to exceed X pills in 24 hours. Cannabis is the same except there is no danger of toxicity. The rest of your assertions are simply opinion and not fact, but I’m glad cannabis receives your completely anonymous approval for recreational use.

  • John Holland

    I can’t see this without logging into Facebook, and I neither have nor want to have a Facebook account.

    Ditto. I appreciate the viral nature of facebook for political organizing, but only about half the population really uses it, at most.

  • The Sharkey

    It’s true, pharmacists do get paid well. I wonder what percentage of the employees at BPG have been to pharmacy school or had a similarly rigorous education in a medical field that would justify their salary…

  • John Holland

    Agreed. If “executive” meant people who were running the joint, and taking the risk, fine. But I find that pretty high for a “bud-tender”.

  • bgal4

    http://www.indeed.com/salary/Pharmacist.html

    not quite, when compared based on responsibility.

    dispensary “pharmacist” have not been able to complete the chemical analysis to properly prepare dosage instructions for patient pot use, this can actually be dangerous

    i.e. Parkinson disease, MM pot advocates claim the medical science support use for pain, muscle spasms in PD, yet  they have not bother to determine what the correct dosage would be SAFE since marijuana affect dopamine and people with PD take dopamine around the clock.

    I have seen first hand the dangerous result of too strong a dosage of MM for Parkinson patients. Not SAFE.

  • John Holland

    “Guest” wrote:

    It isn’t medicine.

    Tell that to the U.S. government.

  • bgal4

     see medical marijuana commission minutes to verify

  • John Holland

    I have seen first hand the dangerous result of too strong a dosage of MM for Parkinson patients.

    Would you please link to some information on that. Seeing as the propaganda is that MM is great for many Parkinson’s, it would seem necessary to link to the information that counters that perception.

  • John Holland

    “Anonymous” wrote:

    my particular ailments I prefer to keep secret as these are very personal

    Careful, that won’t stop people from badgering you online about your private health issues.

    Amazingly, privacy of health is one of the most cherish personal privacies, and you’ll still find troglodytes who want to publicly speculate on your health and how you manage it. (Usually anonymously). I suppose it’s just another form of bullying, but it’s most certainly bad manners.

  • John Holland

    “bgal4″ wrote:

    It is just more of the same, the poor get what is left over.

    Unfortunately, isn’t that how healthcare in general works for the poor in the U.S.? 

    Actually, poor people don’t even get “leftovers” in U.S. healthcare. They simply don’t get treated.

  • Guest

    That is simply nonsense: it doesn’t matter if there a Web site that purports to know what “symptoms” cannabis is or is not efficacious for, and how to treat them, because the information to back it up doesn’t exist. The recommendations for something like aspirin are based on decades of clinical experience with a variety of well-defined disorders; there is no equivalent body of evidence for cannabis. Furthermore, in order to treat with cannabis one would need to know the potency of the preparation, but reliable information on potency is rarely available to the user. To put it differently: in order for a physician to prescribe a drug, there should be an objectively verifiable disorder, and a body of evidence that clearly demonstrates that an agent, given in a certain dose at certain intervals, has a defined effect on that disorder. Those conditions are not met for the use of “medical cannabis”: if you think they are, I invite you to cite peer-reviewed evidence of the kind that is required to obtain FDA approval for the use of other drugs. 

    You know, the FDA is a wonderful institution. I would love to see medical uses of cannabis investigated using the standards applied by the FDA, because I think it is quite likely that there really are legitimate uses. But in the absence of the kind of evidence I have mentioned above, you are just using it to treat your logus of the bogus, or in other words to get high.

  • bgal4

    To understand dopamine transfer in PD Wikipedia is actually a good resource. Consider how  adding an additional  drug that increases or revved up  the reactions of dopamine in the brain.

    A few years ago  I asked  a couple of  neuroscientists working at cutting edge of PD research for studies about marijuana use.  They all responded saying that research studies for  marijuana use in PD would not occur  because  marijuana is contraindicated in Parkinson.  They stated  that  marijuana negatively affects cognition and should not be prescribed since cognitive decline and dementia is a problem in  PD. This was distressing to our family, since the the researchers and the clinicians were not in agreement. The clinician who provided the MM prescription acknowledged the inherent risks but felt the compromise was worth some symtom relief, until an episode of psychosis resulted.  Then it got complicated.

     Before you  challenge this,  read the side effects of the meds required daily in advanced PD, they all list psychosis as a possible side effect. Add pot and viola.

    there you go John,  this will be the only response to you,
    you know your history of harassing me.

  • John Holland

    I’m just asking for a link to any page that discusses this. Sounds serious.

  • John Holland

    I mean, for example here’s what happens when I google “marijuana parkinson’s risk“. I want to believe you, but I don’t see any supportive evidence, only contrary evidence.

  • John Holland

    “bgal4″ wrote:

    there you go John,  this will be the only response to you, 

    you know your history of harassing me.

    I prefer that you call me “Fooland” in this context.

  • bgal4

    I checked your link, it is a start, search away.

    there is plenty of  science to learn, such as
    nicotine is a neuroprotective in PD. how to deliver the benefits is not understood yet.

    I provided you an accurate answer to your question.

    google meth and Parkinson, you will find out that sensations meth users experience are also experienced  in PD.

  • I’m Jes’ Sayin’

    I once had office space right across the street from this building.  It was a tool rental place at the time.

    Our neighbors were, on the one side, Vital Vittles and Cheng Designs.  On the other side was a tattoo parlor (albeit a ‘fancy’ one with a very well-know artist) and a check cashing place.  Oh yeah, and the transient neighbors were the hookers who worked the corner at the light – sometimes chasing cars around the corner to make a ‘deal.’

    This was hardly an uptown area before the Medical Marijuana place showed up.

  • John Holland

    Couldn’t find a darn thing. Not a single medical professional seems to have cared to write about the problem… Assuming the problem exists.

  • PragmaticProgressive

    Man, you just keep trolling.

    She told you that her sources said that MJ is contraindicated for PD. That means that there’s a reason for not using it that trumps reasons to use it. “do no harm” and all that. Scientists don’t waste time doing studies for which contraindications are already known. Your evident belief that mj is a panacea doesn’t make it so.

  • John Holland

    LOL! There isn’t a shred of evidence online to suggest this contraindication.

    Why should I believe it in absence of evidence?!

  • John Holland

    “bgal4″ wrote:

    They all responded that research studies for marijuana use would not occur because marijuana is contraindicated in Parkinson’s

    With all due respects, these doctors were wrong. There are plenty of national surveys. Not a single one says marijuana is contraindicated for Parkinson’s

    I’d like to point out that this is the third questionable “fact” that anti-compassion advocates are promoting on Berkeleyside that doesn’t have any evidence to back it up:

    1. “Shootings are not uncommon in… dispensaries.” In fact, shootings are extremely uncommon in dispensaries.

    2. There are “plenty of national surveys” that most medical cannabis users are recreational users. There aren’t.

    3. And now, “marijuana is contraindicated in Parkinson’s”. It’s not.

    I’m beginning to resent this pattern of anti-compassion activists lobbing fact-free grenades into the comments here on Berkeleyside without any sources to back them up, and then arrogantly putting the onus on the reader to do their busy-work for them, chasing down “facts” that don’t exist.

  • The Sharkey

    John, I hope you are self-aware enough to see the irony in your complaints about posters badgering you.

    I mean you created a website specifically to badger another poster from Berkeleyside for God’s sake.

  • The Sharkey

    I neither support or deny what bgal4 is saying, but it was pretty easy for me to find a report that suggests that Frequent users of cannabis have twice the likelihood of developing both psychosis and schizophrenia, and that it can hasten the onset of mental disorders.

    Cited source:Leweke FM, Koethe D (June 2008). “Cannabis and psychiatric disorders: it is not only addiction”. Addict Biol 13 (2): 264–75.

    (NOTE: I am not vouching for the source either, but it seems to be an accepted study.)

  • The Sharkey

    Did you read the fourth link in the list you just posted?

    The one that says Cannabis Use Raises Risk Of Psychotic Illness Later On By More Than 40%?
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/77872.php

    Were you aware that psychosis occurs in 40% of Parkinson’s patients?

    http://www.michaeljfox.org/newsEvents_parkinsonsInTheNews_article.cfm?ID=498

    If you’re actually trying to find evidence and can’t, you’re a remarkably incompetent Google user. But more likely, you’re simply badgering someone online about their private health issues – something you complained about elsewhere in this discussion.

  • John Holland

    “The Sharkey” wrote:

    I mean you created a website specifically to badger another poster from Berkeleyside for God’s sake.

    No I didn’t.

    I wrote those articles it up to counter false statements made here on Berkeleyside by an anti-compassion activist that demeans sick people. It’s not personal, it’s about acknowledging facts. I’ve never seen anyone so flagrantly cling to an assertion after they’ve been proven SO wrong. (as in the COMPLETE opposite).

    This is especially important considering that now a new “fact” has been introduced: that “marijuana is contraindicated in Parkinson’s”. There’s not a single shred of evidence that I can find online to back that up, but I can find plenty of information that medical cannabis is help for Parkinson’s. I wonder if this is just a ploy to prevent Parkinson’s sufferers from getting their medicine?

    Health is serious business, and truth in this debate is of utmost importance. Here’s an example. Just recently, U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag said:

    People in the community may be supportive of the dispensary being in their community until there’s a robbery and people come running out of the dispensary shooting guns.

    The only problem with this of course is that shootings at dispensaries are extremely rare. There have only been 6 shootings at dispensaries over the last 10 years.

    There’s a difference between attacking someone and challenging their contrafactual statements.

     It’s patently false that shootings are not uncommon and dispensaries, and that there are plenty of national surveys that show most medical cannabis users are recreational users.

    What do you think, Sharkey? Do you think they were intentional lies, or do you think they were made up? I’d like to know your opinion.

    Show me a source for the dubious claims, (or admit they were made up), and I’ll take the pages down. It’s that simple.

    But until then… watch out for the lightning!

  • The Sharkey

    The doctors aren’t wrong, John. You are.

    Newer studies (2008) suggest that cannabis raises the risk of long-term psychotic illness by 40%
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/77872.php

    40% of Parkinson’s patients develop psychosis:
    http://www.michaeljfox.org/newsEvents_parkinsonsInTheNews_article.cfm?ID=498

    It’s a risk/benefits thing. Some Parkinson’s patients will decide that the immediate improvement in motor function from cannabis is worth the long-term increased risk of psychosis. Others won’t.

    It took me less time to find this information than it’s taken you to collect links to badger other posters, yet you have the gall to complain in other threads about being badgered yourself.

  • John Holland

    We were talking about Parkinson’s.

  • John Holland

    I’m just looking for doctors who say, “if you have parkinson’s you better not use medical cannabis.” I can’t find any.

    However, there are plenty who suggest it might be helpful.

  • The Sharkey

    Amen to that. In my experience I’ve seen more shootings at/near check cashing locations than marijuana dispensaries. Not to mention that check cashing stores make grotesque profits preying on the poorest and most vulnerable members of society.

    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/04/0082451

  • John Holland

    The doctors said:

    research studies for marijuana use [and Parkinson's] would not occur because marijuana

    The doctors said research studies would not occur, yet, there are plenty of studies on Parkinson’s and marijuana. How can that be if it is contraindicated?

    Find me a 3 web pages that, in straightforward way, specifically say that marijuana is contraindicated for Parkinson’s and that Parkinson’s patients shouldn’t use it, and I’ll donate $100 to the Berkeley Public Library.

    I’m not talking about some thought experiment like, “marijuana makes you crash your car, some Parkinson’s patients drive, and may crash their car.”

    I mean something like this.

    I’m just grateful you aren’t arguing that more cars stopped at Zachary’s corner!

  • The Sharkey

    Perhaps BPG’s patients can simply drive 1.2 miles down San Pablo to 40 Acres, which (based on reviews) appears to still be operating despite being “shut down” by the City.

    Or, if that’s too far, they could drive 0.9 miles to Greenleaf Wellness Group.

    There are more marijuana dispensaries in Berkeley than there are Walgreens. While I don’t appreciate the Federal crackdown, it’s not as if there aren’t a plethora of alternate places for these patrons to visit.

  • The Sharkey

     Parkinson’s patients have a high risk of psychosis, .

  • The Sharkey

    So information isn’t real if it isn’t presented in the extremely narrow way that John Holland wants it to be presented?

    John Holland is unable to put 2 + 2 together to see why a recent study showing that marijuana can lead to a 40% increase in risk of psychosis for individuals who have disorders for which psychosis might be a side effect could be cause for concern?

    In a case like this doctors aren’t going to make black-and-white definitive declarations. It’s a matter of risk assessment, and only the patient can decide what they think is an appropriate risk.

  • John Holland

    bgal 4 made it sound categorically black and white. It’s not even close.

  • John Holland

    Crickets. Sorry, BPL!