Crime

One man wounded in shooting from car in South Berkeley

The shooting occurred near the intersection of Ashby and California in south Berkeley on Saturday afternoon

One man was taken to Highland Hospital this afternoon with a non-life threatening gunshot wound after he was shot from a car that was in the vicinity of Ashby Avenue and California Street in Berkeley at around 2:30pm Saturday afternoon.

According to the Berkeley Police, the department received a first call at 2:34 pm today from people saying they had heard loud reports of gunshots.

At present it is believed there was one shooter and the police say the shots came from a blue, four-door vehicle. The victim is also believed to have been in a car at the time of the shooting. The police are currently investigating the crime and actively looking for the blue vehicle.

Anyone with any information should contact the 24-hour BPD non-emergency number of (510) 981-5900. If a community member wishes  to remain anonymous, he/she is encouraged to call the Bay Area  Crimes Stoppers (BACS) at (800)-222-TIPS (8477).

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  • bgal4

    One shooter, not likely, since at least 13 casing were located.

    When I heard the shots and sirens I logged onto the web-based scanner.
    Blue Nissan, the other vehicle a purple Camaro was located at Highland and showed  damaged from gunfire.

    I am disgusted that these punks shoot wildly when the streets are full of people and families out biking and walking. We should be prosecuting everyone in both cars.

  • cl3

    How many officers assigned? (I won’t post this question again, but it really bothers me Berkeley has a lying narcissistic police chief and no action has been taken to remove him.)

  • Iceland_1622

    This is the active 24/7 web based link for BPD dispatch again http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=9448  Re-post as necessary so all can truly be updated in such neighborhood urgent and specific events.  

  • batard

    post the URL for the web-based scanner?   this is the one I found on google

    http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=9448

    ten bucks says there no mention of the incident on next week’s “police blotter”  post. 

  • bgal4

    yep radio reference, I learned about it in the  B-Side  comments. Iceland posted it some time ago.

    You will hear information between cops and dispatch that BPD claims is not for public sharing like priors, PFNs. After the shooting today one of the responding officers instructed dispatch to send cars to check ‘”our problem properties in the westend” meaning properties associated with WSB or H20 gangsters.

    ten bucks says the official notification will avoid mentioning or downplay gang disputes.

  • Whattatrout

    There’s also a free app for that 5-0 radio.

  • Heather_W_62

    13 casings are possible from the 9 mil or 40 calibers that seem to popular on the street. Guns with that caliber ammo can typically hold up to 14 rounds. But it depends on the caliber.

    I’m betting though there were shooters in both vehicles. 

    We’ll never hear the truth, though. Chief Meehan and City Management don’t want us to know about such goings on, it might sully their reputation(s). This won’t even make it into the crime blotter. 

    I’m still P.O’d we did not hear ONE thing about the shooting on 7th a Virginia two weeks ago, or about the shooting on May 20th. That no one was hurt isn’t the point — we have a right to know when these types of crimes occur in our city. 

    FYI — a maroon car was the suspect in the 7th & Virginia shooting. Could this be the same car (maroon being a variant of purple?) It’s possible….

  • bgal4

     thanks Heather, I have no knowledge or experience with guns.  Neighbors did observe the gunshots were very close together. It could be from one car and one shooter only, but does that really matter in the big picture?  Too many criminals and young men carry illegal weapons, not revolvers but handguns designed to do serious damage. 

    I have seen several shootings while walking home or  just outside my house, it blows my mind  frankly. That just because we live in south Berkeley we have to put up with this kind of danger.

    And yes I am pissed too, that the city and police chief do not seem to value the principles of  community policing and refuse to properly inform us of the pubic safety threats right in our immediate area.

    I will never forgot what Mayor Bates said during a post shooting neighborhood meeting, folks on Ward St were complaining that the individuals involved in the shooting are known criminals and parolees.  Bates commiserated with them saying ” I can relate, I live on Ward St too, we have problems with  college kids playing Frisbee in the streets after midnight.”

  • batard

    “Too many criminals and young men carry illegal weapons, not revolvers but handguns designed to do serious damage. ”

    No argument on the substance of your comment, but point of clarity re above .. revolvers and pistols come chambered in the same calibers and are indistinguishable from the point of view of the person on the receiving end.  The velocity and  energy imparted on the projectile is the same, and each can shoot as fast as the other, which is to say as fast as you pull the trigger.  Pistols are faster to reload, and can carry more rounds, save for the fact that California limits that to 10 in the magazine.  Of course you can go buy larger magazines in any of the other 49 states, if the substantial legal jeopardy of importing them isn’t a deterrent.  Outside of that pistols and revolvers are equally legal to own, and equally illegal to carry concealed, point at people, etc.

  • batard

    “You will hear information between cops and dispatch that BPD claims is not for public sharing like priors, PFNs. ”
    All public information.

    I didn’t realize BPD was still using FM/UHF radios, I would have thought they switched to a digital standard like P25 a long time ago..   I’m sure they want to, must be for lack of funding.   Sooner or later ..  then everything will be encrypted and our curious ears will be SOL.

  • Bruce Love

    I didn’t realize BPD was still using FM/UHF radios, I would have thought they switched to a digital standard like P25 a long time ago..   I’m sure they want to, must be for lack of funding.   Sooner or later .. then everything will be encrypted and our curious ears will be SOL.

    Hmm.  They have IP to squad-car computers but I don’t know what carries it.  They have at least one other frequency, I believe — perhaps that one is digital?

    For normal everyday radio, though, isn’t there a special problem for the Bay Area:  namely that the “first responders” for so many scenarios come from so many different agencies and jurisdictions?    Thus, it would take a massive, regionally coordinated effort for any such change to encrypted digital.  There would then be a nearly insurmountable key management problem.    Additionally, as Council commemorated last meeting, the region has an active, cooperative, organized ham community who can also be counted on as part of the first responders.   And, as a general rule, analog is more robust — it degrades better, as anyone who has compared weak-signal digital TV to weak-signal analog TV might have noticed.

    Sooner or later ..  then everything will be encrypted and our curious ears will be SOL.

    Perhaps.  I don’t think it is assured.

  • Bruce Love

     

    You will hear information between cops and dispatch that BPD claims is not for public sharing like priors, PFNs.

    That’s a bit unfair.   The department asserts that it can’t release certain information upon request as a matter of law.   The department has policies to implement that law.

    There are lawful ways to get some of that information by other means than asking the department.   The department even publishes pointers to some of these alternatives:

    http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentPrint.aspx?id=55610

  • batard

    >> Thus, it would take a massive, regionally coordinated effort for any such change to encrypted digital.  
    I believe you are correct in that assessment. 

    >  analog is more robust — it degrades better, as anyone who has

    Perhaps, but it depends.  Your brain is pretty good at picking out a signal from a bunch of noise, but a digital codec with enough error correcting redundancy could do a better job.  In practical application (e.g. telephony) the codec bit rate is typically cut down to a minimally acceptable quality already so there’s not much room for additional loss.  To that end, the only reason analog seems to work better is because it’s massively larger bandwidth .. you’ve got more data to work with.

    >  Perhaps.  I don’t think it is assured.

    P25 has enough security problems anyway, probably won’t be able to encrypt it if they wanted to .. 

    http://tinyurl.com/cwvtgrr

  • batard

    >  There are lawful ways to get some of that information by other means than asking the department.   The department even publishes pointers to some of these alternatives:
    Yeah, they point out that you can go to the community crime view website, failing to mention the fact that they are providing that data feed to begin with, nor mentioning the filtering criteria  — except to say, it’s a matter “of law and policy”.   

    So they share what they want to, minus the part they can’t.  Whatever that ends up being, go fetch it from a 3rd party and quit asking questions.

  • Bruce Love

     

    P25 has enough security problems anyway, probably won’t be able to encrypt it if they wanted to ..

    Yeah, I’m a little reticent to say it lest someone get the wrong idea about me but it does seem like, in the land of cyber-libertarian types, there are some oppressive steps it is nearly impossible for the government to take.

    Incidentally:  the many bugs in P25 sound to me like good engineering, on multiple levels.   The business plans that push it anyway, on the other hand….

  • Bruce Love

    Yeah, they point out that you can go to the community crime view website, failing to mention the fact that they are providing that data feed to begin with, nor mentioning the filtering criteria  — except to say, it’s a matter “of law and policy”. 

    Hey, please?      Yeah, they point out that site as one resource.   They also point to other sources where you can legally make requests for information that BPD can not legally give out directly.

    This is similar to the misleading claims we sometimes get around the school district’s information sharing issues.

  • batard

    There’s no additional resources on the page, save for “send us a letter and we’ll get back to you”.  The sources they site are BPD Community Crime View and crimemapping-dot-com, two sources for the same skinny set of dumbed-down call for service data.  The last site they mention is the inmate locator.   Requesting a report is fine for cases where one was filed, but that’s the minority of police activity that folks would want to know about.

    My point is they no longer share call for service information in the raw, and they should (save for the minor redactions that they historically did when they used to share this info).

  • Bruce Love

    My point is they no longer share call for service information in the raw,

    Which is very different from bgal4’s point to which I replied.

  • Heather_W_62

    It doesn’t really matter how many shooters there were, frankly. What matters is that this is happening at all in our city – not that we are immune, but the lack of community policing — the reactivity rather than proactivity is disturbing. 

    It is also very troubling that we have to rely on word-of-mouth on many incidents; such as those you and I have discussed Bgal. BSide only gets the news when someone actually gets hit, but it’s equally important that we be informed about all shootings. Unfortunately, unless North Berkeley becomes a hotbed of shooting, it will be dismissed as behavior that is “normal” for the “ghetto”. As for Bates; what a condescending pr**k he is. 

  • Heather_W_62

    I suspect that many cops were dispatched to this situation. Good thing they weren’t out knocking door to door in search of Young Meehan’s newest iphone. 

  • bgal4

    as so many posters have learned best to ignore your bait.

  • bgal4

     thanks, so if 13 rounds were fired in rapid succession would you speculate that was one or two guns firing.

  • batard

    impossible to say, but if all 13 were on a regular cadence then probably one.  

  • Bruce Love

    Laura, you wrote:

    You will hear information between cops and dispatch that BPD claims is not for public sharing like priors, PFNs.

    which is misleading in exactly the way I described.

    I will once again ignore your chronic and unfair challenges and
    misinformation about school crime information sharing policies, you are
    wrong on that matter as well.

    Enough already, please?  I believe that you “ignore” these “challenges” because I’ve generally been right.   I don’t make them lightly, you know.

  • bgal4

    try asking a local cop about someone’s priors and see if BPD will provide you with a PFN.

    you are so damn tiresome…..

    and definitely wrong!

  • Bruce Love

     Laura, you aren’t tracking.    You are responding as if I said things which I very clearly did not.

    I hope you are OK.

  • bgal4

    BPD, based on advice from the city attorney, does not agree that probation and parole status can be shared by them with the public, even though they agree it is public information. 

  • bgal4

     F…. off Thomas

  • EBGuy

    211 Takeover via gun at Walgreens; perpetrator running east on Burnett. Medium, 6-2,  yellow construction vest, black pants.   Haul was $10k in a black duffel bag.

  • batard

    no, you got mixed up.

  • The Sharkey

    As has been said before, repeatedly, you need to work on the way you structure your comments. There’s nothing technically wrong with the way you write, but you often leave out information you expect others to understand and structure your writing in a non-conversational way that makes it difficult to follow your meaning.

  • The Sharkey

    I wonder if Mayor Quan’s bumbling incompetence effects crime in South Berkeley.

  • Guestinian

     I’d be surprised it it didn’t.

  • Reveel

    I’m surprised nobody mentioned Michael Thorn Bradley. He was a long time Berkeley resident, 67 years old with   three degrees in art and was murdered in cold blood, probably from another animale cut from the same cloth just like the one who murdered Peter Cukor, they probably knew one another.

  • iicisco

    Nope all BPD portables are old Motorola HT-1000’s and some 1100’s. MH uses a few newer ones. Out of the several channels BPD operates none of them are digital. I see both PD and FD switching to digital radios possibly for the 2013 12.5kHz mandate. However, the HT-1000’s are still flavored for their reliability. Even if we switched to digital we would still have to program our radios to outside agency frequencies. i.e. When calling up Albany for their Medic, 2190 would still have to switch over to BFD primary dispatch. The only change there would be is the “Quiet” Tone. 

  • iicisco

    I counted at least 8 plus the ID tech. 

  • Bruce Love

    Thanks for the info!  I’m not a radio geek so (until reading in response to your note) I didn’t know about the bandwidth reduction mandate in this context.  (I naively thought that was just TV and radio.)   Your note is a “search term” nugget for starting to catch up.

    I see both PD and FD switching to digital radios possibly for the 2013 12.5kHz mandate.

    To me that still sounds like a robustness vs. features trade-off.  The vendors really scored with their new “platform” for add-ons.

  • PragmaticProgressive

    A possible upside of the incompetence could be that the 100 blocks of Oakland wind up being in Berkeley.

  • Mbfarrel

    Here’s another example of police wasting resources on minor crimes:
    http://tinyurl.com/7j476r8

  • bgal4

     If you are suggesting a raid on a pot grow is a minor crime, please explain the assault weapons and the suspects history of criminal activity.

    The suspect was at the residence and was immediately arrested,
    according to Watson. She said he has “a very lengthy criminal history”
    but declined to release his name.
    The high-capacity magazines are
    “pretty rare” and removing them from the streets of Oakland is a
    “significant” development, Watson said.

  • Mbfarrel

    They were searching for an iPhone.

  • Mbfarrel

    Darn – left out the “Irony” tag