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The Berkeley Wire: 08.07.12

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  • Guest

    Any chance you will post a link to today’s Chronicle editorial about the effectiveness of Sit/Lie in SF?

    http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/SF-should-redouble-effort-on-sit-lie-law-3767406.php

  • Guest
  • Guest

     Yes.  I see that it is a ‘series.’

  • JW

     “They should be more concerned that their message and their voice should
    be coming through than if it’s grammatically correct,” Larkrith [Associate Director of Undergraduate Admissions, UC Berkeley] said.
    “Not always is it necessary for the student to take their essay to their
    English teacher and correct it because that’s when the student’s voice
    might leave.”

    Does Cal really not care about grammar?

  • Donsf2011

     I am so sick of the inaccurate cliche: “Criminalizing poverty and homelessness.”

    It
    is criminalizing criminal behavior. Society is not responsible for some
    lazy young kid who wants to get high all day on the sidewalk.

    The
    majority of the people cited in this article are not what people think
    of “homeless”, they are ones who choose to do this. Big difference from
    the ones who lost jobs, etc.

  • Charles_Siegel

     The editorial says it has been partly effective in San Francisco:

    “Young drifters have responded to prodding by officers, but a smaller group of older and near-permanent locals haven’t.”

    The near-permanent locals that the editorial talks about are chronic drunks, who sit and lie on the sidewalk because they are too drunk to stand. 

    We have lots of young drifters in Berkeley.  Based on San Francisco’s experience, a sit-lie law will be effective in moving them.

  • Guest

     “Not always is it necessary for the student to take their essay to their
    English teacher and correct it because that’s when the student’s voice
    might leave.”

    Perhaps ‘Cal’ doesn’t care about grammar since the sentence quoted above contains grammatical errors.

  • Guest

     As you so nicely illustrate in your comment, the information in the articles could be useful to people who are trying to predict what might happen in Berkeley should this ordinance pass (or fail to pass.)

  • Guest

    No, you are missing the point. This is CREATING criminal behavior by criminalizing previously non-criminal behavior.
    Subtle difference, but there it is.

    Homeless is homeless, no matter what the age.