Vote update: T slips down, 10,000 more votes counted

Staff count ballots at the Registrar of Voters. Photo: Tracey Taylor

The latest figures from the Alameda County Registrar of Voters adds nearly 10,000 votes to Berkeley totals — a nearly 30% increase on yesterday — and the closely fought West Berkeley zoning change, Measure T has changed dramatically again.

Yesterday, supporters of Measure T had inched five votes ahead of opponents. Today, the yes votes are 426 short of the no votes, the biggest gap in the contest. The registrar expects to finish counting mail in ballots tomorrow, and then his staff will move on to the 40,000 provisional ballots collected countywide.

On Measure S, the sit ordinance, opponents seem securely ahead, with a 1,407 vote lead. Berkeleyside has updated the Google Docs spreadsheet for measures S and T scenarios

All of the other Berkeley races are where they were on election night, despite the many thousands of additional votes. Even the rent board, where 122 votes separated Alejandro Soto-Vigil in fourth and Igor Tregub in fifth on Tuesday, has not changed order. Tregub, however, is only 15 votes behind Soto-Vigil now.

Update on Measure T count: Now 5 votes up [11.09.12]
And then there was one: Measure T down to single vote [11.08.12]
Measure T gap narrows to 26 votes [11.07.12]
Remaining Berkeley votes could change close contests [11.07.12]
Live blogging the Berkeley elections: all the final results [11.06.12]
Measure T: Will it enhance or ruin West Berkeley? [10.29.12]

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  • JJ

    without a murmur or shudder…

  • guest

     “I suspect one of the reason why the city officials want the police
    involved is they have the legal authority to collect identification and
    maintain information for referrals.”

    Measure S contains this language.

    “D. Necessity of Warning Prior to Citation. No person may be cited for a violation of
    this Section until a peace officer first warns said person that his or her conduct is
    unlawful and said person is given a chance to stop said conduct. One warning by a
    peace officer to a person who is violating this Section is sufficient for a 30-day period as
    to any subsequent violations of this Section by said person during said period.”

    This provision of S means that each officer who issues a warning would have to collect and record the identification of everybody s/he warned.  In turn, information about those who have been warned (and when) would have to be available to any officer contacting a potential violator because s/he would need to determine whether or not the person had been warned within the 30-day sufficiency-of-warning period.

    This would have meant that anybody sitting on the sidewalk would, under S, have had to have some kind of ID.  Curiouser and curiouser…

  • guest

     This information was posted just below here.

    “Berkeley ambassadors do not collect names, they are prohibited from doing so.

    “I suspect one of the reason why the city officials want the police
    involved is they have the legal authority to collect identification and
    maintain information for referrals.”

  • Guest

    Zero net jobs added in West Berkeley in over a decade.

  • Haselstein

     Okay, Sharkey, Howie–What councilmember has appeared on Berkeleyside? the Mayor? Moore? Lets  see if any of them show up to reply to our concerns and what they propose.Lets wait it out. Who shows up. Because that will tell us who gives a flyer about civil sidewalks, for example.

  • guest

     “…but I do think there is a real problem to be addressed.”

    This statement seems reasonable, but do these ‘encampments’ really and solely “threaten the viability of
    Berkeley’s businesses?”

    “D. As a result of the sidewalk encampments, residents and visitors tend
    to avoid some of our commercial areas, which threatens the viability of
    Berkeley’s businesses that are already struggling. This in turn
    threatens the City’s overall economic health. Reduced economic activity
    results in fewer resources available for homeless services.”

  • Haselstein

    No, not solely, I think. To be bluntly honest, downtown Berkeley offers very little for the non-student consumer. But–I do think the obnoxious street denizens do hinder comfortable walking for many, and I would like to hear what the proponents of Measure S have to offer other than a blanket ordinance that offered no real enforcement and questionable constitutionality as a  means to bring about  civil sidewalks. The opposition has been right to cite the already-existing ordinances, especially because the principal proponent is a two-term mayor who previously gave the city a lie ordinance that hasn’t been very effective and a  plan that supposedly will give us a vital downtown area.

  • guest

     What makes you think they all come across the Bay. If I’m driven to panhandle, I can state I’ve lived in Berkeley for over 20 years, held down a job and paid taxes for most of that time, and never paid a bill late. But if I have to go to Oakland for a medical referral for “documentation” of my case, I have to get the money for a bus from somewhere. Can anyone spare $4.20?

  • guest

     If you were watching closely, you’d note the “regular” panhandlers are civil and wish you a good day even if you don’t have anything to give them. They have an interest in retaining their spots.

  • Howie Mencken

    Haselstein, Bates et al have left the building. Elections over, it’s back to going with what’s left of the flow. Politicians are only interested episodically (during elections), and then only in the political value of initiatives, not the outcomes. S was a complete victory for Bates. He showed a little spine, tossed a bone, got some votes…and won. 

    But money, capitalism, even greed are constant powerful forces. And on them we can rely for the eventual clean up of the city, block by commercial block. Not too many nasty beggars on 4th St. or in front of the new Safeway. Or on Campus. 

    It’ll take longer, but in the end the result will permanent.

  • Howie Mencken

    Melodramedy, our city’s middle name.